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11#

哈哈,只怕我水平只有这麽多。
最好lzj 兄能带同功放去代理那里试,比如在深圳他们的代理那里只有八达和一些廉价胆功放,不一定很匹配。
不知lzj 兄用的是什麽功放?
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12#

lzj 在 2005-3-7 22:10:16 发表的内容
另外不知贵族2。5同FS788相差多远?各自有何特点?

这次没同场试贵族2.5,以前试过用升X的胆机推,声音比石机出来的还薄,高音尖恶,老牛声变老羊声。怀疑与功放和声源有关。
听FS788虽然声音也不算厚(估计低音没推出来),至少不难听。选他的话应走不出暖声驱动力强的功放。
报价6千,估计可以砍道邮购价。
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13#

不想等的话,可用这个帮忙。
http://www.mytrans.com.tw/mytrans/trantrial/freesent.aspx
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14#

简单翻一下吧
SUBJECTIVE REVIEW OF FOCUS AUDIO FS788 SIGNATURE SPEAKERS
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The Focus Audio FS788s are the latest in a long line of speakers to have graced my listening room in recent years. However, it is only the second speaker to have inspired me to place a review on this website (See the Von Schweikert VR-III Mod-5 review). The 788s replaced the venerable and legendary Proac 2.5s in my system. The Proac is a remarkable two way speaker with full range qualities that trounce far larger speakers. But good as the Proac’s were, their compromises in transparency were becoming obvious to me. I am a not devotee of “accuracy”. I much prefer “warm and mellow” to “harsh and analytical”. The Proacs performed admirably in this regard, but what if I could find a speaker that could meld the two strengths? – be warm yet revealing. The Focus Audio 788s have gone a long way in attaining that goal.
曾拥有很多音箱,FS788是第二对令我在这里写评价的,另一对是Von Schweikert VR-III 。FS788在我的系统中代替了已经很好的R2.5。R2.5作为全频音箱打败不少体形更大的音箱,但透明度是他的弱点。本人宁愿要温暖的声音相对生硬和高分析力来说,R2.5在分析力方面的表现是令人敬佩的,但可否两全其美叻?788s为达到这个目的已做了很多。
先翻到这,明天继续。
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15#

不客气,
继续。

Focus Audio speakers have not received much coverage in the American audio press until recently. I recall an earlier review (1988?) of one of their larger speakers in Stereophile. My attention was drawn to the new Signature Line by a fellow audiophile in Asia – where incidently the bulk of the Focus Audio speakers end up. Dealers were difficult to find in the U.S. I was fortunate to find one who was willing to let me audition the speakers at home for the cost of shipping both ways (Thank You!! Tony Kob - Tony Kob Audio, Leesburg FL).

美国的媒体一直较少报道关于枫叶之声直到现在 。。。。。。

The first thing that strikes you upon unpacking the speakers is the stunning quality of the finish. My pair of 788s came in what Focus Audio calls “Burr Oak”. The veneer is mirror matched on both speakers and the plinths. The veneer is then finished with what appears to be multiple coats of lacquer. The overall appearance is stunning. Mr. Kam Leung the builder and owner of Focus Audio speakers says he was inspired by the cabinetry he saw in the Hall of Mirrors in Versailles. Well Mr. Leung you have managed to build speakers that would not look out of place amidst that Bourbon splendor. The Proacs are known for their beautiful wood veneers finished but the 788s make them look very pedestrian. The two speakers are basically the same dimensions. The main difference, in addition to the finish, are the beveled edges of the 788s and the weight – the 788s being slightly heavier then the Proacs.

褒奖788的外观 。。。。。省掉

With regard to the working parts, the two speakers are very different. The 788s use top of the line Scanspeak Revelator D2905/99000 tweeters, Eton Nomex/Kevlar 7-372/32 woofers, Cardas wiring, Cardas binding posts, and Multicaps in the crossover. All very nice but I have experienced speakers built exclusively with premium parts before that have turned out to be disappointments. The modest parts of the Proacs – Scanspeak D2010 tweeter and Scanspeak 18w/8545 mid-woofer and standard wiring and crossover material have proven to be a successful formula.

关于R2.5和788的工作组件,788用顶级的Scanspeak Revelator D2905/99000 高音单元, Eton Nomex/Kevlar 7-372/32 低音单元Cardas 线材, Cardas 接线柱,分音器用上了 Multicap。都非常好,但对于用上最好零件的音箱我也有过失望的经验。Proac的用料则一般Scanspeak D2010高音单元,Scanspeak 18w/8545 低音单元,标准接线和分音器零件,但证明他们的方程式是成功的。
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16#

I broke in the 788s over a week using my digital set up – Vecteur D2 transport, Audiomat Tango 2.5 DAC. Even in its right out of the box condition the speakers showed themselves to be masters of revealing detail. Yet this was achieved in a very relaxed manner – not exactly warm. And in terms of coherence the 788s rivaled the Proacs – no mean feat. Once I felt adequate break in had been achieved I began serious listening with my analogue set up – Nottingham Spacedeck, Clearaudio Virtuoso Wood, Audio Research SP-16 preamp with MM phono. Power was provided by the excellent Audio Research VS-55 amp. The review that follows is based on this setup.

我用了我的数码系统来煲音箱– Vecteur D2 transport, Audiomat Tango 2.5 DAC。即使刚开箱,已发现这对音箱是分析力方面的大师,但是是以松弛的姿态达至的,不十分暖。在连贯性方面,788和Proac旗鼓相当。
正式试听时用了模拟系统– Nottingham Spacedeck, Clearaudio Virtuoso Wood, Audio Research SP-16 前级 with MM phono和Audio Research VS-55后级。

The detail I had heard earlier in the break in period seemed to have flowered even more. Swathes of detail especially in the mids and highs that had remained hidden in the Proacs now came bursting forth. The soundstage was deeper and wider and had tremendous precision within. Instruments and players had considerable air around them. Curiously, for all of the detail the 788s seemed more laid back than the Proacs. Whereas the Proacs projected the soundstage the 788s soundstage is more of a mid-seat perspective. The 788s also flat out disappear. Not since the Audio Physic Step SLEs have speakers pulled off such a disappearing act in my room. Yet all of this detail is presented in a clear and coherent manner that is intoxicating. There is tremendous liquidity that surpasses the Proacs. Whereas the Proacs liquidity tended to be syrupy and heavy the 788s are crystal clear and light. The 788s revealed the Proacs to have a congested mid range and upper bass with came as a surprise to me since I thought they were particular strengths of the Proac.

在煲机阶段听到的细节现在听到更多,以前用Proac时在中高段隐藏的细节都释放出来了。音场也更深更宽并且非常准确。乐器和乐手被空气包围着(密度好的意思吧)。奇怪的是虽然788能展现更多细节但听起来却比Proac更轻松。Proac所投射的音场较前,而788的音场给你一个中间座位的感觉。788可以完全消失。自从Audio Physic Step SLEs之后没见过一对如此般在房间里消失的音箱。所有这些呈现的细节和连贯性是使人陶醉的。它很好的流畅性也超越了Proac。Proac的流畅性是那种黏稠的,788s 的是透明和轻快的。令我感到意外的是788s 显露了Proac 在中频和上低频有信号堵塞我因为我认为他们是Proac 的强项。
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17#

稍微躲躲懒,今晚再上。。。
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18#

今天比较累,先上这一段

The 788s are magical with voices. Both male and female vocalists shine. Christy Moore, Christy Moore-Atlanitc 81835-1 is one of my treasured LPs and Moore’s deep resonant voice has never been reproduced better than the 788s – especially Side 2. Track2s. haunting “Ride On”. The same is true for my Julie London LP-Julie London-sunset Records.SUS-5104. Audiophile recordings were also brilliantly served. Nethania Devrath’s legendary rendition of Canteloube’s Songs of the Auvergne-Analogue Productions APC002- came through with a liquidity and grace that was unmatched in my listening experience thus far. Small ensembles too highlight the strengths of this speaker. Yehudi Menuhin and Ravi Shankar’s “East meets West” LP-Angel 36418 is a simple yet acoustically complex array of Tabla (Alla Rakha), Sitar (Ravi Shankar) and Violin (Yehudi Menuhin). The soundstage the 788s were able to extract from the recording and their honesty to the timbres of the instruments is near state of the art and has left me with the new found respect for the humble MM phono section of my ARC SP-16.

788重播人声的效果神奇,无论是男声或是声。。。。软件不熟悉,省掉!   >   。。。。重未如此播得好。。。。这种流畅和优美在我的听音房是重未遇到过的。。。。。。当重播小型弦乐队时也突显了这对音箱的优点。。。。。788表现出来的音场加上忠实于乐器的音色达至了艺术的境界,令我对我那ARC SP-16的唱放部分有了新的敬佩。
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19#

交作业(最后部分)      :)
终于有讲到788的缺点了。

But the 788s do percussion and rock with equal zest and precision. Tom Jones “Greatest Hits” was reproduced with all the passion and verve this recording -Parrot/London R123674-is known for. Similarly the splendor and scale of Morton Gould’s “Brass & Percussion” LP-RCA Victor LSC-2080- and Robert Shaw’s interpretation of “Carmina Burana”-Telarc DG 10056/57 was clearly evident. But it was also in the context of large scale music that one weakness of the 788s came to the fore. The ultra refined 788s can play very loud but they cannot dig as deeply into the bass as the Proacs could. On James Horner’s soundtrack of the movie “Glory”-Classic Records-the 788s simply could not plumb very deep. I would say that published specs of the 788s of -3db at 35hz is somewhat optimistic. In my room with my system the 788s rolled off rapidly below 40hz. Moving them close to the rear and side wall helped the bass but at the expense of the midrange, a compromise I am not willing to accept. But this is a weakness of omission and then only within the context of the excellent Proac 2.5s. The latter speakers with the same setup routinely went down to the high and mid twenties in my room – a remarkable achievement for a modest two way. But the bass of the 788s is superb down to about 38hz it is fast and detailed. I feel this is a sensible compromise. Mr. Leung has sought to maximize the mid-bass on up characteristics of his speaker rather than aim for maximum low bass capability. The end result is a superbly balanced speaker that offers state of the art resolution and musicality above 40hz. Even the Proacs cannot match my previous bass miester speaker the Von Schweikert VR-III Mod.5s, but their performance left me content in that department. I was also leery of trying a subwoofer with the Proacs given my less than stellar success trying to mate my Audio Physic Step SLEs with a subwoofer. However, I decided to give the 788s a try. The subwoofer I chose was the Audio Concepts Force. This diminutive sealed box 10 incher has managed to mate wonderfully with the 788s. I feel this is in large measure to the speed of both the 788s Eton midrange woofer and the ACI Force’s 10 inch woofer. The mating is seamless to my ears. With an excellent subwoofer like the Force backing it in the lows the 788 is now a fantastic full ranger.

788在重播敲击乐和摇滚乐时有着同样的准确性和风味。。。。。。。充满激情和活力。。。。。。但当重播大型乐曲时788的一个弱点开始浮现。精炼的788可以播得很大声,但低音部分不如Proac去得那麽低。。。。。我觉得788所标的规格35hz,-3db是一个乐观的数字。在我房间里788由40hz迅速滚降。把它们移近后墙又令中频有所妥协,这是我不可以接受的。这一弱点只是和在这方面非常优秀的Proac比较才体现出来。Proac在我房里经常能去到二十多三十Hz,对于一个两声道的小音箱真是一项了不起的成就(按:Proac真有那末厉害吗?)。但788的低音已是超好,速度快、细致,一直去到38Hz,我觉得这是一个合理的妥协。梁先生(Focus Audio的老板和设计师)的目标是最好的中低频来配合他的音箱的特性而不是最大的低频能量。其结果是一对在40Hz以上平衡非常好,有超然的解析力和音乐感的音箱。仲然Proac还比不上我之前的低音巨人Von Schweikert VR-III Mod.5s,但他们的表现我已相当满意。我也曾尝试用低音炮配合Proac,但效果不如Audio Physic Step SLEs加低音炮。无论如何我决定在788上试试,所选的低音炮是Audio Concepts Force。这个矮小的10寸密封箱美妙地与788联接在一起。我觉得应该是由于788的Eton单元和低音炮的10寸单元都速度快所致。对我的耳朵来讲这个配合是天衣无缝的。有好的低音炮配合788成了一对奇妙的全音域音箱。

I would be remiss, however, if I ended this review without noting one correctible flaw. The 788s come in what appear to me to be the cheapest packing I have ever seen in high end audio. They use very thin card-board boxes and the cheap ultralite stiff Styrofoam, which is prone to cracking and powdering under the slightest stress. This is unacceptable for such a product. I would gladly pay a little more to see Focus Audio ship their speakers using the heavier cardboard boxes and heavy duty shock absorbing molded foam. The Proacs and the ACI Force use such excellent material. But is spite of this oversight the Focus Audio 788s are winners. To my humble pocket book they are indeed a bargain at their asking price of $4,500. I hope other audiophiles will take the opportunity to listen to these remarkable speakers.

讲述不满意788的包装。。。。。。。省掉。
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20#

好像海外华人做音箱的并不多,但都做得精。
Venture
Focus Audio
Silverline Audio
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