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现在汽车市场: 有几家要破产,GM,FORD,VW.有几家最强强劲的公司,韩国:现代,日本: 丰田,NISSAN(算半个日本厂),美国:CHRYSLER(算半个美国厂).
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ACCORD 2.4L 4缸破日本烂车偷工减料卖23-24万,SONOTA 3.3L V6卖 25万没有人说好? 我在国外十多年见的车,开的车,研究的车多的去了. 除非现代SONOTA定价高的国内市场25万. 否则决定是20几万最有竞争力车型.新SONOTA,噪音精细度上被国外测评人士认为超过CAMRY,现代自己称以LEXUS为标准.现代汽车在美国最新J.D.POWER新车质量调查报告中已经超过丰田公司居于大众化品牌质量之首.

值得一提的是SONOTA上的发动机. 2.4L, 2.0L I是现代与CHRYSLER,三零联合设计的.现代为主要设计者.CHRYSLER也将使用这款发动机,但将自己制造,CHRYSLER的发动机自己独立设计进气道和有双VVT,170马力.现代的是162马力,对比CAMRY,ACCORD发动机都在160马力.
2.0L I4是 150马力.还有1.8L 130马力.可以看出来,现代的这系列I4 发动机效率极其高,至少等同与日本两田的发动机.
现代的设计指标也非常高,要达到50万公里的使用寿命.最初2年还达不到50万能达到30万公里.由于配件厂供应商不能马上达到设计工艺的要求.
新SONOTA不仅仅是安静豪华,根据国外评测,操控性能比CAMRY强多了,而是与ACCORD接近,但ACCORD噪音(发动机,路噪)之大无法忍受.这是很不容易的,要操控好,底盘硬郎就难免失去舒适豪华感,同时噪音震动大.两者兼顾是高档车的属性.
装备比更贵10几%的ACCROD,CAMRY更豪华,器全.17寸铝合金轮,米其林SPORT是米其林最高级的运动胎.ESP电子稳定控制系统以前只有豪华车上才配有.电动可挑伸缩式方向盘也是豪华车的配置.
最后编辑Enki
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对车市场,如果在20-25万就买SONOTA,如果在40-50多万就买300C. 如果买30多万的车如PASSAT常 V6,天赖3.5L V6,不如买SONOTA V6,多花了10不万,却没有豪华效应,东西其实也都一样V6前驱的家用车..皇冠真正配置齐备了要39万.那就不如明年国产的3.5L或可能4.0L V6的300C了.
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现代NB! SONTA20几万元级别的首选车.
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Enki 在 2005-5-13 10:11:27 发表的内容
NISSAN天赖? 不如买SONOTAV6算了,与天赖 3.5L V6一个档次的东西,却便宜10万.
都是前轮驱动,排量也差不多.
SONOTA是5速自动,而天赖居然是4速.
大小也也一个档次,都是中型车.

如果到接近40万档次.最佳选择就是CHRYSLER 300C了,估计明年会国产化后价格将在40万以内. 源于BENZ E级,底盘改进加长宽到接近S级,3.5L V6 250马力,BENZ敞5速自动,造型比BENZ,BMW,AUDI NB多了.而且据说明年将换成4.0L V6 300马力.
日产“风度”如何?“西玛”也可以考虑一下,因为老爸可能也要换......
开过“风度”3.0豪华版,说实话,驾驶乐趣、舒适度都达到我的要求!
再问,天籁、宝马3系列质量可靠吗???
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这段很精彩,我给翻译以下!


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Porsche 993 C4S
BMW 540i Sport
2005 Chrysler 300C SRT-8 Delivered March 16, 2005



我刚刚开完了董事会的会议回来,路上下着倾盆大雨,接下来是发生在我回家路上的事:

我正在一65英里(105公里)速度巡航,我不想回家太快因为我想在300C SRT-8上多待会儿,我知道如果我以平时的速度开,我很快就到家了.忽然,我看见一辆MASTUNG野马跑车的大灯快速接近我的左侧驾驶员侧镜.
我估计这家伙开的速度有85英里(137公里)左右.所以我等着他到达我的车尾时开始给300C SRT-8加了1/4个油门,当他超过我的时候我的车也向前窜出去了,原来他的车是MASTUNG CORBA野马-眼镜蛇(4.6L V8),我知道不是300C SRT-8的对手除非它是做了很多改装的,但是从他的声音听起来不象.如当他的尾车刚刚超过我的车保险杠,我已经达到85英里速度,当达到90英里时候,我已经开始超过他,他最多的`时候不过超过我车头几尺.

如JMATT说的SRT-8的排气管开始咆哮仅仅当你给加大油门时.平时他是很安静的.
别忘了这可是下着大雨,而我只是想来点好玩的,我已经有了乐趣,所以我减速因为我快要到高速出口了下高速了.他一直没有减速,所以我决定跟着他,他的转向灯先于我的亮了,我知道我们两一起走同一个出口.当我们从高速下来接近长长的引路的尽头时候,前面的路灯变黄了,我们都以45英里速度(72公里),我们都在那条只能左转的道路上.他在前面我后面.(美国高速是这样的:这长长几百米从高速下来引路尽头有灯,至少有左右两条路,左转将从高速下穿过)本来我等着他减速,但是他没有所以我也没有.

他就这样一下进入左转弯,他的车头已经左转但是他的车尾依然向前直进.我仅仅在他后面一车之远,也以70多公里的速度进入90度的左转弯,只是SRT-8没有让后轮打滑而是牢牢地抓住地面(别忘了是下大雨的路面),以至于我马上到了他车的右侧,这时候他正在尽量矫正他的甩尾打滑我意识到如果他不小心,他将摆尾撞到我车上来,我们现在都已经指向穿越高速公路下面的方向,但现在是条双车道的路了.我想都没有想立即加油门蹿出去了,我从后镜里看到他的车尾甩到我的车道上来了.这一切只是发生在短短的的几秒内.我曾经是"DRAG RACE"的塞车手,我经常做甩尾侧滑的动作.我对与怎样过弯更有信心,更知道自己在做什么,但是我告诉你们如果我开的是一辆轻型车,我刚才就将是一厂难堪的事故.我对CHRYSLER的工程师门更加尊重了. 这车操控的如此好! 这句话,我不是随便说说的.
如我所说,这SRT-8是我尊敬它,我以后不会再在雨里玩,但是至少我知道,如果在雨天我需要快速反应,这车将牢牢抓住地面.安全第一.


Yesterday, 08:58 PM #5
XCITsNU
Senior Member




Join Date: Jul 2004
Member Number: 471
Location: N. KY
Ok, this is a perfect topic for what was going to be my next post, but this is a better spot for it cause it's right on topic. I'm taking it easy with the SRT-8 now. It's MAKING me respect it.

I just got back from a board meeting and it is raining cats and dogs out side right now. Here's what happend on the way home.


I am cruising along the freeway doing about 65 MPH, not wanting to get home too fast cause I want to spend more time in the SRT-8 and I know if I drive my usual speed, I'll be home way too soon. Anyway, I see mustang headlights (I own a 94' Convertible too) fast approaching in my drivers side mirror.



I figure the guys got to be doing about 85 MPH, so I wait until he gets right up to about my rear bumper and I press the gas down about another quarter of the way and the car lurches forward as he starts to pass me. Turns out to be a Mustang Cobra, which I know is no match at all for the SRT-8 unless it is HEAVILY modified, which this didn't sound like it was.

Of course as JMAtt said (JMatt I still owe you a response to your PM) the exhaust really growls when you give it some gas.


I'm up to 85 by the time he's past the front bumper and at 90 mph passing him since he never got further than a few feet away from the front bumper anyway.

Keep in mind it's raining hard and I just wanted to have a little fun. I had it, so I ease off the gas and slow it down, since I am getting closer to my exit.


He keeps on the gas and get's over into my lane so I decide to pace him until my offramp. His turn signal goes on before mine so it looks like we are getting off at the same exit.


As we approach the light at the end of a long offramp, it turns yellow. We're both doing about 45 mph and we are both in one of the two lanes for the offramp that only goes left.


I'm waiting for him to slow down and since he doesn't neither do I.



He whips into the corner and his tail end keeps going straight as he turns the front end into a hard left to go underneith the freeway.


I'm only about a car length behind him and bank hard around the corner still doing about 45 pmh into a 90' degree turn, only the SRT-8 doesn't slide the rear tires, but grips right up, so much so that I am instantly right beside the Mustang as he is attempting to overcorrect his spinout.


I realize in the next second that if he is not careful, he's going to fishtail right into me. We are both pointing towards the underpass now and it is a two lane road.

I don't even think about it as I give the car enough gas to shoot past him. As I do, I look in my rearview mirror only to see his rear end whip into my lane as the SRT-8 is moving out of the way. This happens all in the space of about 2-3 seconds.


Now I been a drag racer for several years and I am used to hooking a car straight from a tail spin, so I felt a little more confident about what I was about to do going into that turn, but I tell you even I realized that if I'd been driving a lighter car, I would have ended up in an ugly accident.


I have MUCH more respect for the Chrysler engineering team tonight. This car handles well enough for me and this is not a statement I make lightly. By the way, I have the AS tires.
Like I said, the SRT-8 is MAKING me respect it, and I will not be playing around anymore in the rain, but at least I know that if I need to move out of the way of something quickly in the rain, the cars going to stay on the road. Be safe Y'all, cause you can't have fun in a totalled car.

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Got one of my two SRT-8's on March 17th, 2005!!!

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Last edited by XCITsNU : Yesterday at 09:01 PM.
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看好NISSAN,也准备换车!
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其实人最难消除成见.现代汽车将会成为与TOYOTA一样受人尊敬的品牌和企业.开韩国车也不丢人. 反之我最看不起开日本车的汉贱. 只不过到那时候2010年,现代的价格也不会比TOYOTA便宜了. 现在正式机会,现代的东西已经不比TOYOA差了但是市场价格还没有调整过来,所以才会便宜.
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接近40万档次.最佳选择就是CHRYSLER 300C
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3系列? 价钱不低,性价比不高. 优点是BRING ME WOMAN.
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